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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4idQbwsvtUo&t=1995s

13,908,310 views  Oct 17, 2023  #benshapiro #piersmorgan #hamasattack
WARNING: This video contains strong language

Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by Egyptian comedian Bassem Youssef and later on by co-founder of the Daily Wire, Jeremy Boreing, for a heated and emotive debate on the historical treatment of Palestine during their conflict with Israel and whether Israel's decision to bomb Gaza in an attempt to get rid of Hamas is justified and proportionate after the attacks on October 7th.

Bassem condemns the terrorist organisation Hamas and tries to explain that people have been desensitised to accept that civilians dying is an inevitability of war.

Piers then suggests he doesn't know what the "proportionate response" to a terrorist attack of Hamas's scale would be. Bassem responds by referencing a graph that shows the total amount of deaths in the conflict prior to the attacks and questions the Palestinian killings in the West Bank, which has never been occupied by Hamas fighters.

Bassem then mocks Ben Shapiro for his public stance on Israel defending themselves, questioning how an occupier can be defending themselves. Shapiro's friend and colleague Jeremy is then invited by Piers to debate Bassem's criticisms.

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6 hours ago
It is very unfortunate that a person is forced to ridicule his sadness and tragedy just to show the truth to the world.

[Lem]

Buen video de una entrevista (~ media hora) al profesor Mearsheimer acerca de los sucedido en Israel: Origins of Hamas/Israeli War w/ John J. Mearsheimer

También hace un comentario interesante sobre Ucrania en base a unas recientes declaraciones de La Casa Blanca:

Q: Thanks.  Just to follow up on Brian’s question.  I know the contours of a congressional package is still taking shape.  But can you provide us anything on a timeline or give us a sense of how quickly the U.S. will exhaust what it can provide to Israel before congressional action is needed?

MR. KIRBY:  We have existing authorities and appropriations to support Israel in the near term.  And I got asked last time, you know, what is “near term,” or what’s “a bit” mean?  I — I can’t give you a date certain on the calendar, because a lot of it’s going to depend on their expenditure rate and what the replenishment ability is — or what the need is and what our ability to do it is.

But in the near term, we’ve — we’ve got appropriations and authorities for both Ukraine and for Israel.  But you don’t want to be trying to bake in long-term support when you’re at the end of the rope.

And in Ukraine — on the Ukraine funding, we’re — we’re coming near to the end of the rope.  I mean, today we announced $200 million, and we’ll keep that aid going as long as we can, but it’s — it’s not going to be indefinite.

So, are we moving with a sense of alacrity?  Absolutely.  I couldn’t give you a date certain on the calendar.

El profesor entiende que esto significa que Ucrania está "toasted" y lo mejor que puede hacer es sentarse a negociar, antes de que se le agote el dinero y se vea forzada a ello.

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Buen video de una entrevista (~ media hora) al profesor Mearsheimer acerca de los sucedido en Israel: Origins of Hamas/Israeli War w/ John J. Mearsheimer

También hace un comentario interesante sobre Ucrania en base a unas recientes declaraciones de La Casa Blanca:

Q: Thanks.  Just to follow up on Brian’s question.  I know the contours of a congressional package is still taking shape.  But can you provide us anything on a timeline or give us a sense of how quickly the U.S. will exhaust what it can provide to Israel before congressional action is needed?

MR. KIRBY:  We have existing authorities and appropriations to support Israel in the near term.  And I got asked last time, you know, what is “near term,” or what’s “a bit” mean?  I — I can’t give you a date certain on the calendar, because a lot of it’s going to depend on their expenditure rate and what the replenishment ability is — or what the need is and what our ability to do it is.

But in the near term, we’ve — we’ve got appropriations and authorities for both Ukraine and for Israel.  But you don’t want to be trying to bake in long-term support when you’re at the end of the rope.

And in Ukraine — on the Ukraine funding, we’re — we’re coming near to the end of the rope.  I mean, today we announced $200 million, and we’ll keep that aid going as long as we can, but it’s — it’s not going to be indefinite.

So, are we moving with a sense of alacrity?  Absolutely.  I couldn’t give you a date certain on the calendar.

El profesor entiende que esto significa que Ucrania está "toasted" y lo mejor que puede hacer es sentarse a negociar, antes de que se le agote el dinero y se vea forzada a ello.

Lo de Napoleón: "Mañana atacamos por la izquierda..." y luego, al día siguiente, (tiras un dado y) haces lo que corresponda.   










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[ Veo mas toasted a Putin & Co. ]

[Saturio]

Buen video de una entrevista (~ media hora) al profesor Mearsheimer acerca de los sucedido en Israel: Origins of Hamas/Israeli War w/ John J. Mearsheimer

También hace un comentario interesante sobre Ucrania en base a unas recientes declaraciones de La Casa Blanca:

Q: Thanks.  Just to follow up on Brian’s question.  I know the contours of a congressional package is still taking shape.  But can you provide us anything on a timeline or give us a sense of how quickly the U.S. will exhaust what it can provide to Israel before congressional action is needed?

MR. KIRBY:  We have existing authorities and appropriations to support Israel in the near term.  And I got asked last time, you know, what is “near term,” or what’s “a bit” mean?  I — I can’t give you a date certain on the calendar, because a lot of it’s going to depend on their expenditure rate and what the replenishment ability is — or what the need is and what our ability to do it is.

But in the near term, we’ve — we’ve got appropriations and authorities for both Ukraine and for Israel.  But you don’t want to be trying to bake in long-term support when you’re at the end of the rope.

And in Ukraine — on the Ukraine funding, we’re — we’re coming near to the end of the rope.  I mean, today we announced $200 million, and we’ll keep that aid going as long as we can, but it’s — it’s not going to be indefinite.

So, are we moving with a sense of alacrity?  Absolutely.  I couldn’t give you a date certain on the calendar.

El profesor entiende que esto significa que Ucrania está "toasted" y lo mejor que puede hacer es sentarse a negociar, antes de que se le agote el dinero y se vea forzada a ello.

Lo de Napoleón: "Mañana atacamos por la izquierda..." y luego, al día siguiente, (tiras un dado y) haces lo que corresponda.   










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[ Veo mas toasted a Putin & Co. ]

Pues si cortan el dinero a Ucrania no sé que otra cosa más mierdista y traicionera ha hecho USA en su historia.

Aunque esta fue buena:

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El dinero lo pone Europa... comprándole armas a EE.UU.







Ucrania es (de facto) Europa.

[Lem]

Otra entrevista interesante, que, dentro de mi superficial conocimiento del asunto, me pareció ofrecer una buena visión del conflicto, su historia y los errores cometidos. Es de hace 8 meses por lo que obviamente no analiza lo sucedido recientemente:  The History and Ethics of the Israel-Palestine Conflict with Dr. Benny Morris

Al final el entrevistador le pregunta por "una vision optimista del futuro"  a lo que responde "nada positivo va a suceder en el futuro".

Acerca del entrevistado https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Morris

Benny Morris (Hebrew: בני מוריס; born 8 December 1948)[1] is an Israeli historian. He was a professor of history in the Middle East Studies department of Ben-Gurion University of the Negev in the city of Beersheba, Israel. He is a member of the group of Israeli historians known as the "New Historians", a term Morris coined to describe himself and historians Avi Shlaim, Ilan Pappé and Simha Flapan.[2]

Morris's work on the Arab–Israeli conflict and especially the Israeli–Palestinian conflict has won praise and criticism from both sides of the political divide.[3] Regarding himself as a Zionist,[4] he writes, "I embarked upon the research not out of ideological commitment or political interest. I simply wanted to know what happened."[5]

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[Saturio]

El dinero lo pone Europa... comprándole armas a EE.UU.







Ucrania es (de facto) Europa.

Bueno aunque eso es cierto no es una cosa totalmente triangular. De alguna manera USA está anticipando el dinero porque nosotros tardaremos en gastarlo. Por otro lado no todos los programas de rearme son una transferencia a Estados Unidos.

Evientemente allí va a parar la pasta de los F-35 y del sistema Patriot (por poner ejemplos del caso español) pero hay otros proyectos que no son made in USA.

[Lem]

El dinero lo pone Europa... comprándole armas a EE.UU.

Ucrania es (de facto) Europa.

Bueno aunque eso es cierto no es una cosa totalmente triangular. De alguna manera USA está anticipando el dinero porque nosotros tardaremos en gastarlo. Por otro lado no todos los programas de rearme son una transferencia a Estados Unidos.

Evientemente allí va a parar la pasta de los F-35 y del sistema Patriot (por poner ejemplos del caso español) pero hay otros proyectos que no son made in USA.

Al propio Israel por ejemplo https://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-signs-nearly-e4-billion-deal-for-israels-arrow-3-missile-defense-system/]Germany signs nearly €4 billion deal for Israel’s Arrow 3 missile defense system[/url]

Todo un intercambio aquí por cierto Netanyahu Party Member Furiously Threatens Russia—on Russian State TV

An Israeli politician issued a series of furious threats against Russia during an appearance on a Russian state-controlled TV network Thursday, vowing to retaliate against Moscow’s actions during the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. Amir Weitmann, the founder and chairman of the libertarian caucus in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, said “Russia will pay the price” after Israel defeats Hamas. “Russia will pay the price?” British RT host Rory Suchet asked incredulously. “Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel,” Weitmann raged. “Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us.” He went on to add: “We’re not forgetting what you are doing. We’re not forgetting. We will come. We will make sure that Ukraine wins. We will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done.” In a televised address Thursday night, President Joe Biden linked Hamas and Russia, saying they “both want to annihilate a neighboring democracy.”

Vale la pena ver el video.

[Cadavre Exquis]

https://www.eleconomista.es/opinion/noticias/12500939/10/23/el-punto-critico-del-petroleo-llegara-con-el-ataque-terrestre.html

Saludos.

[Cadavre Exquis]

https://www.eleconomista.es/opinion/noticias/12500656/10/23/las-consecuencias-para-europa-de-una-escalada-hacia-la-guerra-en-oriente-medio-.html

Saludos.